Paul Danner, aka ScannerDanner on YouTube clears up the misconception that his name is not “Dan,” which he gets all the time. People think his name is Dan and he added “ner” to rhyme with “Scanner”? He says it is not true and that that it would be really stupid!!!!
His career in the automotive field started as a junior in high school in 1990. He took two years of auto mechanics in high school, then another two-year program (post-secondary) at Rosedale Technical College in Pittsburgh (where he now teaches). After Rosedale, Paul entered the field and worked full time for about 8 years before coming back to teach at the school. This September 2018, Paul will be starting his 18th year as an automotive instructor. Listen to Paul’s previous episodes HERE.
Brin Kline is the owner of Assured Auto Works in Melbourne, FL. His career in automotive repair spans 17 years with nearly 8 years as an owner.
Brin knows that the automotive repair industry is ever-changing. Diagnosing and repairing automobiles of today have many more requirements for up to date training than they did in years past. Today, a technician must network with and befriend other likeminded individuals, commit a lot of their personal time to craft their skills so they can confidently, efficiently and accurately diagnose the issues that they face on a daily basis. Look for Brin’s other episodes HERE.
Matt Fanslow is the diagnostic tech/shop manager at Riverside Automotive in Red Wing, MN. His primary responsibilities are to diagnose driveability and electrical/electronic issues, and perform most all programming, coding, initializing, adoptions, etc. Basically, if it needs to be figured out or has wires, it goes to Matt. He’s been a tech since 1996.
Matt is also a subject matter expert for ASE and has instructed at Vision Hi-Tech Training and Expo.
Matt has participated on 18 ASE technical committees for the ASE Practice Test, A6, A7, A8, and L1 tests. He’s also done case studies for Standard Motor Products.
Fanslow’s goal is to do everything in his power to improve the overall level of professionalism within the automotive and light truck repair trade and also raise the level of its public image. Hear Matt in previous episodes HERE.
Michael Broccolo is from Rochester, NY. His father has been in the automotive/collision/towing/salvage business since before he was born. Michael grew up around cars and attended BOCES (High School Cooperative Skills) for collision repair. In 2006 SkillsUSA Michael placed 1st in New York State in collision repair and attended the national competition. Apprenticed at a high volume collision shop right out of high school. Michael currently owns Broccolo Automotive & Collison with his father. Broccolo’s is a full service automotive/collision shop, a salvage yard/used & new auto parts, and offer towing services all under one roof. Michael’s previous episodes HERE.
Sara Fraser is a millennial who has a love for life, travel, and connecting with other humans! She has over 15 years of retail management experience, the last 6 of them as an office manager for a used car sales and service center. To bring her customer service, marketing, and business knowledge to the automotive industry she has recently joined the team at Haas Performance Consulting.
Sara loves helping others grow and succeed and is excited to share her expertise on management and social media, her views on how and why the younger generations think and act, and how to work and manage a business within a multi-generational workforce. When she isn’t working Sara spends her time traveling, attending theatrical productions, music festivals, concerts, advocating for human and animal rights, celebrating life in general and connecting with other people from all over the world. Look for Sara’s previous episodes HERE.
Key Talking Points:
- Gen Z may wants a lot of information
- Millennials and Gen Z want to see your reviews and what is on social media about you and your company
- While attempting to put your company in a good light, you can put other companies in a bad light. For Brin it happened and he didn’t mean to do that.
- Re-educate the customer what they are paying for vs what they found on an internet search
- Diagnostics doesn’t mean much to a customer
- The word most preferred is ‘Testing’
- You are selling a series of tests to pinpoint the problem.
- The doctor must see you before writing a prescription
- Paul: Stop calling diagnostics a ‘Time’. It is a diagnostic service or an analysis for a certain fee for so much time
- It is a flat fee to pay me to look at your vehicle
- Make no apologies for your fee
- Howeiver 90% of the industry connects a scan tool and replaces a part
- Customer are getting mad because of this. Looks simple and degrades the shops doing a full diag and charging for it
- If customers comes to you because parts swapping did not fix their problem, yu’ve got to charge correctly for applying your experience, training and equipment investment
- 85-90% of vehicles can be handled in the first hour if you are experienced and trained
- Many shops are not diagnosing. They are retrieving a fault code and using statistical diagnostics to find a repair option
- For a flat fee customers are paying for testing in Matt’s shop
- They are not paying for a result but are paying for testing that generates a result
- What happens if you are hired to fix the repair the customer believes is the problem and it doesn’t fix the problem? Should it bring confidence to the customer when the technician does the proper testing finds the real problem.
- Brin offers a free assessment no charge and then gives a price to repair
- He offers a few minutes for the assessment
- Create your own YouTube or Facebook Video explaining your process of testing and why it is so important to finding the root cause of the problem
- Create customer rules for your ecosystem
- Why you do what you do from diag time, loaner cars, waiting room, fresh coffee, training, expectations of your experience
- Pull back the curtain and teach your customers what they can expect. Soften them up for the culture they will come to expect and appreciate
- Take an offensive approach that some Youtube videos are preemptive to what you do
- You do not need expensive equipment to create video, just a good smartphone to create good videos. Keep them organic and get them posted. Don’t worry about length, become an expert. Show real tangible results of your testing procedures
- We have a serious lack of technicians that can really fix a car. Going to YouTube to find real answers to problems has created a YouTube cult at top diagnosticians such as Paul Danner
- Our compensation systems and shop cultures are not rewarding diagnosticians and analytic thinking
- Current corporate culture is you are a Rock Star if you can produce, you are not a Rock Star if you are a great Diagnostician
- Being a top diagnostician requires a lot of time and training
- New generation looking for instant gratification vs the long term gains from training and the ‘learn from your mistakes’ wisdom
- Turn your Instagram stories into highlights
- Facebook or YouTube does not want you to move your people out of their platform
- Put up your video on each platform separately you may get better traction
- LinkTree can be used to provide a list of links for Instgram
- The reference to Rick Flare is from the For The Record episode #50 with Matt Fanslow HERE. https://remarkableresults.biz/f050/
- Thanks to Brin Kline, Matt Fanslow, Paul Danner, Michael Broccolo and Sara Fraser for their contribution to the aftermarket’s premier podcast.
- Link to the ‘BOOKS‘ page highlighting all books discussed in the podcast library HERE. Leaders are readers.
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